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Friday, 15 April 2011

Orange Chaplain has called for expulsions for attending the Mass

The Newsletter has reported that Rev David McCarthy, an Orange chaplain, has called for members of the Orange Order who attend the Mass to be expelled.

Read the full report here

Lets hope they do but I won't hold my breath!!

4 comments:

Chris H said...

Ironically attending a Mass could be the greatest thing to ever happen to these men. Thrown out of the Orange Disorder and into the Kingdom Of God. Let's hope they do throw them out as you say, I pray that they do and that many more follow. You are a divisive man Rev McClung. There's much fat that needs trimmed off your unbiblical gospel. What are you going to do in Glory when we're not all like you? Maybe you'll leave and go to be outside with Jesus and the outcasts.

Rev Brian McClung said...

Chris H

I note there is not one argument based upon the teaching of the Word of God in your comment. If what I say is so 'unbiblical' then please show me. From what you say that shouldn't be too difficult.

However what you say is all just your own reasonings and it doesn't have an ounce of Biblical support. It is seriously flawed.

Romanism is not part of the kingdom of God. It is pagan. Romanism's distinctive doctrines come from old pagan Babylon religion, not from the Bible.

The Gospel is divisive. Maybe you haven't noticed what the Lord Jesus Christ taught in Luke 12:51-53:
Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:
For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three.
The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

Only those who believe on Christ by simple faith will be in glory. No one will be in heaven who is not born again, John 3:3,7.

The mark that someone has done so will be a willingness to receive what Christ teaches whoever they may be.

Not everyone is going to heaven. Matthew 7:13,14:
Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it

Many are on the road to destruction, few there be who are on the way to glory.

Brian McClung

Gabriel said...

Strange that you agree with the comments of a cleric you chose to be 'separated' from.

“No Protestant should ever attend Roman Catholic worship. We call for these members to be expelled from the Orange institution, along with others who have recently met with the Parades Commission, contrary to Grand Lodge policy. Rules are rules and they must be upheld.”

“No Protestant should ever attend Roman Catholic worship." can you believe the arrogance of this man. I mean he is not saying here that no Orangeman should attend, he is saying no protestant. Praise God that there are some good decent and loving Protestants that would have no time for these views, Protestants that are not so insecure in their faith as this minister seems to be.

And as I have found out recently that there are some protestants that are not believers, by that I mean that have never trusted for salvation in the finished work of calvary and resurrection of the Saviour “No Protestant should ever attend Roman Catholic worship." well a Protestant who is not in receipt of the salvation of Christ should be able to go where he likes, He is going to hell anyway, what difference would it make?

Would that Ministers time and energies not be better spent on teaching his orange brethren on the teaching of Christ regarding Love of Neighbour and Love their enemies rather than making an issue of who goes into what building and for what purpose. I imagine that ministers faith must be so rocky that he feels he might be swayed away from it if he ever witnessed in the flesh the papist mass.

I spent 18 years of my life in the papist church, the first 18, While I was subject to my parents. And out of their 5 siblings only 3 belong to that church today, and even though I have no belief in what goes on at the mass, consider it a sham, I have no problem attending to a disabled relative I wheel into the chapel and remain in case my assistance is needed, I have no problem either attending family weddings or funerals. I dont think for 1 second that doing so will sway me away from my belief in and fellowship with Christ.

I just wonder in Free Presbyterian homes that there must not be any Santa Claus at Christmas time for the Children, or easter bunny at easter, must be really sad homes.

But Brian can you answer something for me, something that has been an eye opener for me lately. What is the point in any man or woman for that matter being or calling oneself a Protestant if they are not Christian? or put it another way, what is the point in a non-christian protesting on scriptural grounds about another non-christian? doesn't make any sense.

I remember having a work-break discussion with a colleague and for some reason the diet of worms came up, and we were joined by another colleague who when asked what we are talking about was told 'the diet of worms', and he thought it was a fad diet we were talking about, and when explained what it was, said he had never heard of it. So I said quite obviously Bill you are not a protestant. 'Well actually I am' he said. unbelievable that there are so many people who have no idea where their faith comes from, and in some cases, what they actually do believe in,but are quick to tell you what they dont believe in. Bill is not a Christian, protestant yes, Christion =no. So whats the point in his non christian state protesting about others in a similar non-christian state when the are both under the same curse?

Just doesnt make any sense to me at all.

And as to the Orange order that is another joke, I cannot be in it, should I want to be, because I came from catholic parents. because I was a catholic while I was under my parents, and yet I have more in common with Martin Luther than any of they have, as I said a joke.

Rev Brian McClung said...

Gabriel [I am going to have a lot of replying to do if you go round all the posts making comments and asking questions]

I was just highlighting the call of Rev David McCarthy for the disciplining of those who break their vows. There is indeed a considerable irony in that he remains in a Church where his ministerial colleagues attend mass regularly and nothing is said about it by evangelicals.

He is right however in saying 'no Protestant should ever attend Roman Catholic worship'. A true Protestant is one who protests against the errors of the Roman Catholic Church.

The rest of your post highlights the difference between Political/Secular Protestantism and Biblical Protestantism that has always existed to some degree but has diverged more than ever in recent years/decades.

Political/Secular Protestantism expresses itself in 'Loyalism' - loyalty to a political entity and way of life.

Biblical Protestantism expresses itself in loyalty to the teaching of the Bible.

In using the term Protestant you need to distinguish between these two concepts. The term 'Protestant' has a wide use today. I wish it were different but that is where we are.

The term in its original meaning and usage denotes someone who is opposed to the errors of Romanism and seeks to bear witness to the truth.

Brian McClung